Dragging Around Vertices

[Hometime]

Why can't I select PN vertices by dragging around them like regular Max objects?
Also, I have a power sketch object and once I go to the PS vertex mode I can't select any of the vertex even by trying to click on one.
Ok, on the vertex non-select by clicking, I was trying to select some ofthe knots.

[Hometime]

Why can't I edit tangency handles or control points when in that mode in PSketch?

http://screencast.com/t/PCHE6M3vaL

[nPower_Dave]

You have to go into subobject mode to move around the vertices. I think that's the way it works with other Max objects too, but I may be mistaken. If you go to "subobject sketch vertex", you will see the vertices in green. You should then be able to select and move them. Isn't this what you want to do?

[PiXeL_MoNKeY]

Hometime, it is hard to say without having a Max file. Is that a Sketch object? An Edit_Sketch Object? Other Sketch Object? Was the curve(s) originally created as Sketches or created as Spline or NURBS curve and converted to Edit_Sketch?

-Eric

[Hometime]

Yes, David I was in sub-object mode and have seen this before, maybe it's some error that I can clear after restarting or something.
Eric, it was a PSketch object, but someone pointed out it had a lot of errors (the red points?).
I tried recreating the shape and could easily drag around the vertices.
I know I am kind of a nuisance of late, sorry.


I am on vacation and trying to actually understand PNURBS and thanks to your help I am learning some things, which is a lot more than before. I've been very frustrated with the program for along time, but then I guess I'm pretty easily frustrated and get a little irrational at times.

[nPower_Dave]

So you get into subobject mode and can't edit anything or select anything? Could you duplicate the steps you took to get to that point (or capture a video)?

[Hometime]

I'll certainly try Dave, it's one of those things that you don't know is going to happen until it happens.

[Hometime]

Here's a screen movie, though I can select the vertices the PN dialog says zero vertices are selected,
also, aren't there supposed to be vertices on a 2D shape after two shapes are union boolean, where they intersect?

http://www.screencast.com/t/PVjWwjDDY

[PiXeL_MoNKeY]

Convert it to an Edit_Sketch to collapse it down so you have edit capabilities.

-Eric

[Hometime]

Ah, ok, left that step out, thanks.

Don

[Hometime]

Here is a Max 9 file and I cannot select the vertices of this PSketch line by dragging around them, only directly clicking on an individual vertex. I tried also collapsing to an Edit Sketch and it made no difference. It's just a line created by clicking grid points to make a step outline.

[EricPinkel]

I tried your file and it seemed to be fine,

http://www.screencast.com/t/o63GxLVW2oz

I am concerned that your build is having problems. Could you please let me know what build you are using. )

[Hometime]

Ok, thought it might be because I was using R282 but installed the latest build I have (R290) and no change here.

[nPower_Dave]

Actually, I think the problem that Don is referring to is specific to the 2D Boolean. It isn't creating an editable vertex at the intersection point. Isn't that what you are saying Don?

[nPower_Dave]

Or to put it more accurately, it creates a vertex there at the intersection, but you can't select it for editing. But that actually makes sense because those intersection points are not control points for those original primitives. You could go back in the history and change the size of the rectangle or circle, and the Boolean will update. If we allowed you to distort those intersection points, it would destroy that history. For example, what would you do if they went back and changed the size of the box or circle? Would you lose the edits to the intersection point? You can't have both cases. So if you want to edit that intersection point, you need to convert to an editable sketch. Then you can edit those control points (but you won't be able to go back and change the size of the box or circle). Does that make sense?

[Hometime]

Well Dave, I think I am only wanting to drag-select around the vertices as Eric did and for some reason I was not able.
It may be because of how I was trying to do it.
Sometimes it seems you have to choose the operand text in the stack and sometimes you have to choose the operand itself, depending on the operand type, to edit.

[EricPinkel]

David,

The Max file Don has does not have any 2d booleans. it is the same file in my video.

Eric

[nPower_Dave]

O.k. I saw one video in this thread (from Don) where he did a 2D Boolean with a box and a circle. It looked like he was trying to move those resulting intersection points. I guess I misunderstood. Sorry.

Don, did you figure out what was going on?

[Hometime]

Well, it can all be very confusing having several similar issues and posts on each of them,
plus dealing with someone who is fairly easily confused by it all (me). And, yes, in one of the videos I was trying to move points at a 2D boolean intersection.
After looking back over this thread what comes to mind is that even when converting to an editable sketch I am not always able to drag-select vertices.
Eric had no trouble with my file (dragging/select on a power sketch), but I am having the problem on a semi-regular basis,
however, I am also having a lot of trouble that might be related to Vista/graphics (in Max) issues, so this could be one of them.